Ifrit is doing his best to keep Eos alive as he makes his escape...but also among the items are Fireproof Inners to protect from fire damage…but what could be burning Ifrit, the Astral of fire, The Infernian?! The sun is a star. We next make our way up a narrow upwards path. Ifrits in early Islamic lore are said to be formed from the blood of murder victims. UPDATE 1/15/18: This is probably a little overdue, but a few months ago in an interview with Kotaku, Tabata debunked a major part of this theory. http://imgur.com/gGDHe1X, This would explain why daemons sometimes appear in the power plant…not because of star scourge in the meteor, but because deep below is a direct hole to the Underworld! The Pitioss Ruins are unique among other dungeons in Final Fantasy XV, both for their aesthetic and their progression. Lore See also: Story within Pitioss Ruins Chapter 1: An Idea. Not the Lucian Kings, not The Oracles, and certainly not the other Astrals! It fits the tone of FFXV perfectly. Casting a spell, opening a door, etc. Ifrit won the battle since he has the Prawn Antennae in his hand. That would be a huge taboo in the eyes of the other Astrals... http://imgur.com/B7Sosgw. Perhaps in his rampaging he causes a major earthquake that tears the Crag open, creating Taelpar Crag as we see it today. Not the Lucian Kings, not The Oracles, and certainly not the other Astrals! Based off evidence of the Prawn Antennae we can decipher what happened here. His hair is charred off. Ifrit is running. http://imgur.com/7CgU5YF. Ok! A few days ago, I read a thread on here about theories for the Pitioss Ruins. Don’t believe us? From here on out, whenever the player hits a switch, it represents an action being taken. [EDITED! At the end of this room the player slides down a steep slope. We think this symbolizes a Meteor hitting whatever has Ifrit imprisoned. It will be accessible to you once you obtain the Regalia Type-F and get back to the open world exploring. Ifrit is being burned & is taking major damage. Finally Ifrit has found his way out of the realm of the dead, but before him still lie many obstacles. It’s not canon unless there's proof in the game! Or you could take it as that it is going down his throat, he’s eating it. http://imgur.com/P3362KR. He was amused when I told him they should add more platformer dungeons to the game. Also, at some point after his first death and retrieving the crystal from Eos’ heart, Ifrit in his messenger’s body must have built Pitioss ruins. Anytime the player sees a healing item, it represents a time Ifrit used it to heal himself. But why do the other Astrals call him The Betrayer? The article made it seem like the whole theory was debunked, however, we contacted the author of the Kotaku article and based on his response the only part that was debunked was the fact that Ifrit loved Eos. He wants to lay his tale out in a very visual & symbolic way, down to the last detail. There’s nowhere to look for information about Ifrit. That is why he has burns on half of his body. The story in Pitioss, as said in our last post is a tale told through symbolism. But how was the Crystal retrieved?? The red lighting signifies battle. http://imgur.com/22edcA3. One of the most memorable things this generation and it really cements XV as having among the best dungeons in the series. Paying attention to even the smallest of details in Pitioss truly opened the story to us in a completely new way. Regardless, this is the last leg of Ifrit’s journey out of the Underworld. Added a detail I had somehow managed to forget about the Pitioss theory. In an elaborately constructed argument that involves old-school Final Fantasy references, Greek mythology, and tragic Shakespearean pathos, perona77 proposes the idea that Ifrit was actually a good guy, not the nasty villain he appears to be in Final Fantasy XV. Each of us noticing things that the other didn’t. Remember….Ifrit is a romantic, Eos is his beloved, & he is undertaking this massive journey for her sake. Now the player progresses by jumping off the top edge of Eos’s hanging rod to fall through to the next room. No, but it certainly is a step in the right direction to proving that it IS indeed Ifrit. Please send help. Interestingly, there is a bright red spotlight shining on him, and in his hand is a Prawn Antennae. "Your worst nightmare come true. Take a look around, this place has the same architecture as Costlemark Tower and Steyliff Grove, but it is grossly unfinished! We have all been as blind as Ignis up to this point. That will awake him (her) in the next morning. He is skeletal, eyes sunken in. Until you actually arrive at the statue of Eos, anytime you see her below, it represents Ifrit thinking of her, not that he actually sees her. I can’t remember who the OP was for this idea, but basically they thought that the giant female statue could be the corpse of a long forgotten Astral. http://imgur.com/hxgqEhd, Huh. He fought SO hard to save Eos, literally going to the depths of hell & back, giving up his life, only to die in the end, and knowing that his efforts were for naught. http://imgur.com/On4wiww. A hand, jutting out of the wall. What Ifrit sees before him, is not what he was expecting...there is something horribly wrong with Eos. The next room has the giant spinning globe with another Ifrit statue perched above it. http://imgur.com/On4wiww. Titan is barring Ifrit’s way forward. This perch is to offer coins for passage on Doomtrain! Answer: The power plant in Lestallum! The figure in BB art has wings, and the Ifrit statue doesn’t! PITIOSS RUINS: A NEW CHALLENGER APPEARS. He’s artistic. Check out FFPeasant's video where he discusses the Pitioss theory & other things, including the confirmation rumors: https://youtu.be/WPXQPuSTqjQ. So where does Gladio start his journey with Cor? If he had not gotten Eos’ out when he did, and purified her body with the Pyre, her light would’ve gone out, bringing eternal night. Let’s look at Ifrit during the Citadel battle. He’s getting closer now…, Finally you reach the shore & must scale up narrow ledges, like climbing up a narrow canyon. Ifrit uses this tree log to float or cling on to in his desperation to not drown. UPDATE 1/15/18: This is probably a little overdue, but a few months ago in an interview with Kotaku, Tabata debunked a major part of this theory. Alright, I've decided to return to an oldish topic; speculation about the nature of Pitioss and the story it's designed to tell. A spotlight shines on the bearded statue who is holding a door shut with one hand and a platform with the other. http://imgur.com/BqE6RQ1, Up to this point, you could have turned around and walked all the way out, but once you hit the switch to enter here, you cannot go back… we’re in it for the long haul now! This room is after the whirlpool, Ifrit is under the water and must get to the surface. There is nothing in this room of chaos that looks like people from Solheim built. We were blown away at the response it had, and are thrilled that it sparked so many of you to discuss the masterpiece that is Pitioss & got people interested in re-playing this often overlooked gem. http://imgur.com/NeuNopK, Blood swords in previous Final Fantasies have the item description of being covered in the blood of its victims. Next, the player jumps on to Ifrit’s back so they can then jump to the Meteor and hit the yellow switch to trigger a Meteor that smashes Titan’s statue completely. Pitioss Ruins Enemies. Only those who could pay the fare with coins placed under their tongues are granted passage. This is the realm of the dead, the point of no return. Which leads us in to the fourth room. How appropriate is Chapter 0 now?! Register yourself as a member of Eyes on Final Fantasy in order to post, have less ads, be able to read more thread replies per page, and much much more. She is not far from death's door, and he knows that he is going to die, so why the frenzied escape from the depths? http://imgur.com/V1ItTX7, There is an epic story being told in this room. It might not be what Hajime Tabata and crew actually intended, but it sure is brilliant. The Greeks invented stage play with the Greek Tragedies, and this game is heavy with Greek & Roman mythology. Her burning, crystalized heart was still that hot! http://imgur.com/id7RSBy, This short conversation conveyed SO much. Eos’ soul is in the crystal. Thanks, Filipe! Original theory by husband & wife team, Perona77. We as the players have been in this room before, but narratively this is now representing a different area. This explains the heavy use of symbolism throughout Pitioss Ruins. It still applies. This explains the heavy use of symbolism throughout Pitioss Ruins. The day I was about to finally confront Pitioss … He’s artistic. It’s as if the hand is saying “Tickets, please”! Pitioss Ruins Map. We are happy that it got a lot … Her burning, crystalized heart was still that hot! Eos is running out of time. Everything else seems to be of Ifrit’s making. Ifrit unintentionally save the world with his act of pure love. It’s a cavern. Either way, it’s clear an attack didn’t occur, most likely because Ifrit and Eos are literally oozing Star Scourge . The spinning room symbolizes Ifrit’s despair at finding Eos in this state. The crystal contains a small shred of the goodness and light that once was Eos. The spinning wheels represent his struggle to stay at the surface as he’s still being drug down the river. He could have just written a book & hidden it somewhere. Before this point, Ifrit’s journey led him down deeper and deeper into the Underworld. Eos’ soul is in the crystal. We did want to make it clear that we are the original creators of this theory. Remember how earlier we discussed that Ifrit originally entered via the Lestallum Crater? http://imgur.com/7B4DRI5 Another interesting piece of evidence that the identity of this statue is Ifrit, is Ifrit's artwork from Final Fantasy Tactics: http://imgur.com/R8DVRdX. UPDATE 2/17: Prince Freakin' Noctis has read Pitioss Ruins: REVELATIONS! Pitioss Ruins tells the tale of how this came to be. Hmm…who else acts like this? No bosses inside the dungeon . Of note inside the cage area we find a Blood sword in the corner, and a Garnet Bracelet literally inside of Ifrit’s hand. They say there’s a cave near the summit that offers the finest view in all of creation.” This is a sublte hint from square enix! They've been in front of our faces this whole time! In the first thread, everything was written as if one person was writing, but actually, we are a husband & wife who both love Final Fantasy. Let’s take a closer look at it…. This is a waterfall, and Ifrit uses a spell as he crashes down. A RUBY BRACELET. As to the Goddess figure, she would be the one to bless this human and/or their lineage with the ability to stop Ifrit's scheme from destroying humanity. Let’s look at Ifrit during the Citadel battle. Could Ifrit have been anticipating an encounter with Shiva, Ramuh, & Bahamut?? Ifrit truly went to the depths of the planet. read rules before following & feel free to send a meme to start a thread! Let us stress here that Pitioss is NOT where these events actually occurred. Include crossovers; Exclude crossovers; Show only crossovers; Completion Status. Everything started clicking in to place for me after reading this… Pitioss Ruins is literally…the Pit of Eos. There’s a giant hole in the globe that you have to jump through to reach the center of the globe…all while dodging fiery spikes (could this represent lava?). Click the register link above to proceed. This is all seems very random…but it’s not, there is a tale being old here. With that said, here's some food for thought: http://imgur.com/Xg6b99j http://imgur.com/dYbGC4E. Many people in our previous thread argued with us that this is NOT Doomtrain. This room represents the whirlpool, created by Karlobos, which Ifrit has been sucked into. We realized that if the statues, puzzles, and events in Pitioss are symbolic…then the items strewn about the dungeon and details on objects must be as well. There’s cave outcroppings, even. We realized that if the statues, puzzles, and events in Pitioss are symbolic…then the items strewn about the dungeon and details on objects must be as well. At the cost of his life, at the cost of becoming a Betrayer, at the cost of spreading star scourge unto the world. Inside the globe itself we noticed something crazy! Don’t forget Doomtrain is in Amano’s Big Bang art. This reminds us of something… http://imgur.com/4knAvLR, That isn't a cave, it's a crystallized heart. Don’t worry fam, we got you. In fact, Ifrit unintentionally prevented the world from being destroyed—despite the fact that he spread the “star scourage” plague that is referenced so often in the game. (At this point, we originally thought that Eos was dead at this part of the tale. http://imgur.com/2XANm3E. It’s reminiscent of a Destiny raid in that it plays by different rules than anything else in the game, and it never quite explains itself. The third room has spinning wheels and platforms. He needs to get out. There is very light, sinister music playing in the background. http://imgur.com/3WTNxrR, Here Ifrit is clinging on to his log, struggling to hang on. Author of Blood, Sweat, and Pixels. The first puzzle to progress further involves bouncing a giant ball off the cage. http://imgur.com/daYGUAz, We know Gladio leaves the party at Cape Caem. http://imgur.com/AjrpFrD. http://imgur.com/O2g8rZl. This is Titan holding the Door to the Underworld shut while supporting the earth. http://imgur.com/TZaQSqK, Time is running short for Ifrit, and he has no way out…at one point in this part of your trek out of Pitioss you find the Pendulum accessory…another allusion to running out of time. insane breakdown of the lore in Pitioss Ruins. But back to Pitioss, if Ifrit were using a human as a host to bring the Starscourge against the wishes of the Six, that would be in keeping with @Ikkin's theory, and even explain why Ramuh would try to stop Ifrit. The crater in Lestallum creates an entrance to the Underworld for Ifrit to enter through. But…at the tip of his horns is an item. The dungeon's design is dominated by glowing orange spikes, numerous statues of unknown figures, and in its deepest chamber, a giant stone statue of a woman holding a sword over her head; the identities of the figures are unknown, but the giant statue of the woman appears to be the focal point of the ruins, being found in their deepest point before the player begins their return to the surface. We were convinced that this tale HAD to be true. We really encourage you the player to play this part of Pitioss with this imagery in mind. No enemies inside the dungeon. There’s a spike wall that you can barely squeeze past. These tiles seem to represent the 4 Four Fiends of Chaos from FF!!! This explains why the Lucis & Nox family have powers separate from the crystal. In short—and really, you should read this entire theory—perona77 argues that Pitioss tells the story of Ifrit’s love for the goddess Eos. Watch Noctis at this part…he stumbles and trips. Do you see it?? They want every trace of the original Eos to be erased, and if her bloodline can’t do it, then fuck the planet, enjoy your eternal night. The Hexatheon don’t speak of him, there’s no lore in game, all we know is he is “The Betrayer”. I spent 4 hours in here the 1st time and it was mind boggling. He came all this way to save her, only to find her chained and...not herself…It’s truly sad. There are holes in the ground, loosely stacked pillars, haphazardly placed stones… Solheim started to build this place, abandoned it, and later, Ifrit used it to build a sanctuary for his tale. This can be evidenced by the building materials ALL OVER this dungeon, represented through items like rusty bits, chrome bits, metal scraps, building stones….Ifrit had a specific reason for this location…but we will get to that at the end. So finally, Ifrit has reached his goal. Ifrit burst out of Taelpar Crag, carrying Eos…and lit a Pyre at the nearby Rock of Ravatogh in order to purify her and save the last bit of her light buried deep inside her heart. He must’ve cut open her heart and reached inside to retrieve the Crystal. For Final Fantasy XV on the PlayStation 4, a GameFAQs message board topic titled "Pitioss Ruins; REVELATIONS FFXV Theory. FOREWARD: First off… a BIG THANK YOU to everyone who read & participated in our last thread, Pitioss Ruins; a tale of love & despair. It’s fantastic. However, there is one thing you want to do before heading there, as there’s a secret quest that can be started in Lestallum. Pitioss Ruins Theory (9) Angst (3) Fix-It (3) Alternate Universe - Canon Divergence (3) Fluff (2) Death (2) Alternate Universe (2) Time Loop (2) Spoilers (2) Happy Ending (2) Other tags to exclude More Options Crossovers. Very interesting to see Matt & Ray discuss it. We slowly went through Pitioss and studied every item and what we know they mean. The two pillars framing the exit, are unlike any other pillars seen in Pitioss. Upon being defeated, Karlobos creates a whirlpool that sucks Ifrit into the river. The first 15 minutes of Episode Gladio reveals a loading screen stating that the Rock of Ravatogh is where Ifrit died fighting back the Hexatheon http://imgur.com/SBsSaCu News editor. It has a hole in it…the same shape and size of the Dark Lucian Crystal. It’s clear that Ifrit is the architect from here on out. :) You made our day! You must jump on top of Ifrit’s head to continue, once again taking his perspective. All of the imagery is there, it is nearly impossible to dispute in at least some of the areas…but it wasn’t enough, there were still pieces missing to this puzzle. This skull contraption is a REPRESENTATION of Doomtrain. Pitioss Ruins … "When I asked, Tabata shot down that one bonkers theory about Pitioss Ruins’ story, adding that there are aspects of Final Fantasy XV’s background lore that will be explained in future downloadable content. There are also a lot of random items in this dungeon that at first might not make sense like Rare Coins, Gemstones, etc. This is Eos. Even more compelling here, however, is that they are symbolic of quick returns and a separated love and as such will be given to a lover about to embark on a long journey. I only just completed the Pitioss Ruins last night and was amazed at how unique the dungeon was. Most all of them have a common theme: A blue choker to increase HP recovery, Safety Bit to protect from sudden death, Silver Bangle to increase HP, a Megalixer to restore full health. Ifrit placed these Wall Guards throughout Pitioss for two purposes: one to represent when he fights a daemon, and two, to force the player down the correct path of his story. The Gods in Greek & Roman Mythology!! A spotlight shines on the bearded statue who is holding a door shut with one hand and a platform with the other. Ifrit saved her just in time, before the last of her light was extinguished. Ifrit saved her just in time, before the last of her light was extinguished. Pitioss Ruins – Final Fantasy XV There are quite a few dungeons to explore in Final Fantasy XV, many of which the story doesn’t actually take … THANK YOU to reddit user /u/PenguinSunday for pointing out that in this final room as you land in the circle of lava and hit the switch to open the door to Doomtrain's room, the music changes from What Lies Within (normal dungeon music) to Disquiet (the music that played during Noctis's nightmare) after you hit the switch. As many of you have already discovered, Final Fantasy XV has a secret dungeon called the Pitioss Ruins that’s one of the best things in the game. Ifrit is fickle as fire, emotional, and a romantic. Marilith (the 2 headed snake), Lich (The boney face with a red hat that has souls flying to him), Kraken (aka Ultros with his 8 tentacles), & Tiamat (the white flower with 8 petals). Pyreburner… He has burned a pyre. Burning her on the Pyre spread the star scourge into the air, but it was a necessary evil. http://imgur.com/k6yRZY8. Moving Spike Wall of Death¶ That is certainly a large and dangerous obstacle here in this room that you will need to constantly watch at the… That’s an odd choice of words…a Pyre refers to a cremation burial…. Let us stress here that Pitioss is NOT where these events actually occurred. We think that there could be a connection to the 4 Fiends within Pitioss, but we couldn’t conclusively be sure. Ifrit needs this place to pass the test of time, an actual train would be difficult to maintain. This is why it can restore the Dawn. http://imgur.com/X58taw1. If he had not gotten Eos’ out when he did, and purified her body with the Pyre, her light would’ve gone out, bringing eternal night. Pitioss is literally a Greek tragedy stage play set up by Ifrit himself to tell his epic tale to a future Lucian king & memorialize his beloved, Eos. From Ifrit’s point of view, he knows that he is on the final legs of his ascent with Eos. Pitioss Ruins Theory (9) Angst (3) Fix-It (3) Alternate Universe - Canon Divergence (3) Fluff (2) Death (2) Alternate Universe (2) Time Loop (2) Spoilers (2) Happy Ending (2) Other tags to exclude More Options Crossovers. The soul of the star is in the crystal. This story begins and ends with Ifrit. From here, we climb to the next switch that causes a second meteor to blast through the door that had been blocked. The crystal contains a small shred of the goodness and light that once was Eos. http://imgur.com/XqH6F6b, This is key as to WHY Eos was imprisoned and sentenced to the Underworld. Now why say it’s the finest view in all of creation, when it’s just a tiny cave with lava that you can’t even enter? /r/FFXV/comments/5w8ws8/eos_revelations/, DOUBLE UPDATE 2/17: Kotaku has picked up Pitioss:REVELATIONS and written an article about it! His true love, Eos, Goddess of the Dawn. Only someone from the line of Lucis, descendants of Eos, could completely get rid of the star scourge & bring about the dawn. Original theory by husband & wife team, Perona77. And he (she) will never be able to awake. She must have despaired from her fate and let the darkness overtake her, turning her once majestic light into the purest form of darkness to the point that it literally oozes out of her. They glow with the same red lights we see when an Iron Giant spawns. SUMMARY: We want to thank everyone who previously read and enjoyed our Pitioss Ruins: Revelations theory. If Ifrit had not saved Eos when he did, the last of her light would’ve been extinguished, and there never would of been another dawn! It fits the tone of FFXV perfectly. Seriously though, screw the guy who decided to put a precision platforming dungeon into a game with such mushy, imprecise controls. … http://imgur.com/kruAgsG, Something to note here is that you find the Genji Gloves at her navel. Discussion. Don't read if you haven't completed FFXV. He mentioned that one of the producers of FFXV worked on Bloodborne, a game famous for using environment & item descriptions to bring lore and story in to the game. Pitioss Ruins; REVELATIONS. Not where we entered, but close by, mimicking Ifrit’s final exit from the Underworld. The article made it seem like the whole theory was debunked, however, we contacted the author of the Kotaku article and based on his response the only part that was debunked was the fact that Ifrit loved Eos. Paying attention to even the smallest of details in Pitioss truly opened the story to us in a completely new way. This could be like a turnstyle at the entrance to a train station…, This next room is Doomtrain’s station in the Underworld. This inspired us to revisit Pitioss & think even further outside the box. Noctis even groans here. Let’s look at it closer: http://imgur.com/0xfhz4z. Such an amazing theory. Upon death, a soul encounters the Ferryman, Charon, who ushers souls across the River Styx to the underworlds. He must’ve cut open her heart and reached inside to retrieve the Crystal. And to an extent, they’re right, it isn’t. Ifrit’s statue is perched at the beginning of the room, looking down the the hall that leads to the Door of the Underworld. Like no other gemstone in the world, Ruby is the perfect symbol for powerful feelings. They’re Astrals, Divine Beings, couldn’t they of purified the crystal themselves? That is why he has burns on half of his body. 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